OSSC to display Sega System 24 medium resolution arcade PCB

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  • February 14, 2019 at 5:10 AM #25200
    xtrasmiley
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      Ok I have a working (I think, can’t be 100% sure without seeing it work!) Sega System24 arcade PCB which I am using a HAS supergun with to an OSSC. This is the same setup I’ve used for about 46 arcade PCBs and I haven’t had any issues yet, but all other boards were standard resolution or high like Naomi, but again no problems. This is my first attempt with a medium resolution game.

      With this set up I get a sync lock on the OSSC, but get nothing on my TV.

      The OSSC screen shows:

      423p
      24.39kHz
      57.66Hz

      Which doesn’t seem correct as I don’t think the S24 board is 423p.

      Anyway, my TV keeps displaying the “resolution is not supported” message and nothing.

      Any thoughts to what settings I should use?

      February 14, 2019 at 6:05 AM #25202
      nmalinoski
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        Those are total line counts of the incoming resolution, not simply visible lines (so 480p will show as 525p, 576p will show as 625p, etc.); 423 lines seems appropriate for 384p.

        My assumption is that your display doesn’t like the resolution, refresh rate, or both. Assuming a resolution of 496×384, line doubled, that comes to 992×768, which is not any sort of standard PC or TV resolution. If the OSSC is framing this as 1024×768, that might have better compatibility, but I imagine there are TVs out there that don’t accept this over HDMI.

        As for refresh rate, 57.66Hz is enough off-spec from 60Hz that I can see displays outright rejecting it.

        You might need something like a Framemeister or Extron DSC 301 HD to scale and framerate convert this to use on your display.

        February 14, 2019 at 6:53 AM #25203
        xtrasmiley
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          Crap, thank you for the explanation, are there any settings I can adjust to try on the OSSC?

          Any settings that might allow my TV to display it?

          What if I bought an EGA to VGA device, like this thing:

          https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFPCXDF?pf_rd_p=c2945051-950f-485c-b4df-15aac5223b10&pf_rd_r=647V3G4VK2TW4DJSP9RH

          February 16, 2019 at 9:48 PM #25278
          xtrasmiley
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            Bump, anyone with a way to test some other options or am I totally out of luck with the OSSC and S24?

            February 18, 2019 at 2:42 PM #25316
            Harrumph
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              The scan-rate and number of vertical lines is quite a ways from standard 1024×768 after doubling.
              You might have better luck going for WXGA (1280×800). Increase V.Active to 400, Increase H.Active to 640, adjust backporches as needed.

              February 18, 2019 at 6:31 PM #25321
              nmalinoski
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                Could the horizontal samplerate be increased slightly in order to bring that 992 up to 1024?

                February 18, 2019 at 7:11 PM #25324
                Harrumph
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                  Oh I didn’t realise that was the default. Probably the samplerate doesn’t need to be changed, just increase h.active to 512 to achieve 1024×768.
                  Edit: and if he wants to try 1280×800 like i wrote above, he needs to increase h.samplerate to 780-800.

                  March 18, 2019 at 9:59 AM #25608
                  xtrasmiley
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                    Thanks for the tips guys, I’ll test it out and post the results!

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