V.backporch – Increase upper limit

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  • February 27, 2017 at 8:43 AM #11564
    b0nz0beavis
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      Going by my calculations, I’m going to need to use a H.backporch of 303-304 in order to establish if I can get Lx5 using a Saturn and outputting the OSSC to Panasonic plasma.

      Seems logical based on the various settings I’ve recorded anyway OSSC settings for Panasonic VT60

      I’d rather the sharp pixels of optim modes, but the settings indicate a pattern for generic 4:3, whereas optim has the same tweaker settings across linemulti modes so I have no idea what to mess around with.

      February 28, 2017 at 8:22 PM #11582
      marqs
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        If you’re aiming for 1920×1080, there’s very little space for horizontal back&front porches. The default L5 mode (1536×240) has samplerate of 2046, so (2046-1536)=510 pixels is available for backporch, sync and frontporch. However, following active area adjustments are applied internally to achieve 1920×1080 format:

        1. H.synclen is reduced by 120 (150->30 in default case), effectively increasing H.frontporch to 247
        2. Required active area expansion to both sides is calculated: In default case (1920-1536)/2=192
        3. H.backporch and H.frontporch are reduced by the amount defined in (2). In default case H.backporch 234->42, H.frontporch 247->55
        4. V.active is reduced by 24, V.backporch is increased by 12.

        Maximum valid H.backporch parameter (with default H.samplerate & H.synclen) would thus be 42+55+192=289, otherwise H.frontporch would get negative.

        If you use 1600×1200 format and 320×240 mode, then all H.values are internally multiplied by 5 (so you can get effective H.backporch of 305) and only (1) of the steps above is applied. You can then manually do V.active-=24 and V.backporch+=12 if you want 1600×1080 output instead.

        March 2, 2017 at 7:38 PM #11618
        b0nz0beavis
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          EDIT: nevermind. Just figured it out 🙂

          March 2, 2017 at 10:10 PM #11620
          Harrumph
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            Interesting. Perhaps the same approach of active area adjustment can increase compatibility of Lx3 mode also?

            September 20, 2017 at 2:36 PM #15189
            awe444
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              Reviving this one for a different reason:

              I’ve got a 800×600 PC signal with a 800×480 image centered (letterboxed) inside of it. Using a V active of 480, the current V backporch upper limit of 64 prevents me from being able to properly vertically center the image. A higher upper limit of 128 or 255 would easily be adequate, is such a change possible? Thanks

              September 20, 2017 at 9:44 PM #15213
              marqs
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                It’s possible, goes into same category as request for larger mask range.

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