No video output from NTSC SNES
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April 10, 2020 at 8:13 PM #36886
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ParticipantConsole: NTSC SNES (SNS-001)
OSSC: 1.6 (0.81a)
Cable: Insurrection Industries SNES SCART cable
Monitor: 27GL63T-B (1080p @ 144Hz, but running at 720×480 @ 60Hz for OSSC)Issue: When turning on OSSC, the test signal shows up fine. When turning on the SNES, AV1 shows RGBS 262p 15.70kHz 59.94Hz with a green LED but there’s no picture to my monitor–just a black screen.
I’ve been searching online for a couple hours and can’t seem to find anything. If it helps, I’m running the Junker HQ recommended settings (H-PLL pre-coast: 1; H-PLL post-coast: 0), but all other settings are default.
Apologies if I left out any info–I’m new at this!
April 10, 2020 at 11:28 PM #36889Harrumph
ParticipantEither your monitor doesn’t tolerate the sync jitter. Or it doesn’t like the linedoubled 480p signal. For the latter you can try the other linemodes, for the former you would need the de-jitter mod. Or finally, it could be a cable issue.
It would help if you could try with another monitor.
The v.freq given by ossc is slightly low (should be above 60hz, not below), you can try cycling inputs and see if it will re-lock at correct refresh rate.April 10, 2020 at 11:47 PM #36890arp
ParticipantThanks!
I got it to lock at 60.15Hz, but still no luck. I tried passthru and Line2x-Line5x, still nothing. I tried running it on an LG 27UK650 (4k monitor) and got the same result, a black screen. I have a couple HDTVs I could try later tonight, but Junker HQ made me think those are even less likely to work.
Is de-jitter the next step? Is it worth doing that to my existing console or are some of the later models better?
April 11, 2020 at 2:36 AM #36893arp
ParticipantOK. I tried it on a couple HDTVs with the same result. There is a signal going to the TV (you can see it switch to 240 on passthru, 480p for Line2x, etc.), it’s just an all-black signal.
What is the most likely culprit be? The cable? Needing to do a jitter mod?
April 11, 2020 at 7:29 PM #36901Harrumph
ParticipantYou are certain the snes works (for example on a crt tv)?
April 11, 2020 at 7:33 PM #36902BuckoA51
KeymasterThat does sound a lot like a faulty SNES. On most displays you will get a picture from the SNES with the OSSC, just that some require the de-jitter in order for the picture to be stable.
April 13, 2020 at 11:43 PM #36947arp
ParticipantUnfortunately, I don’t have any TVs or monitors that can take a direct input from the SNES. And, as you can guess, it’s not a great time to leave the house and go get one :/
I suppose I’ll have to give up on the SNES for now. Thanks, all.
April 14, 2020 at 2:38 PM #36954JonIIDX
ParticipantThis might sound ridiculous, but I was getting a very similar problem when I first tried hooking up my Super Famicom to the OSSC. Given this was with a SFC, not an SNES… I imagine they behave similarly. I hadn’t used my console for quite some time, and since it takes the OSSC a while to sync, I wasn’t seeing the flicker from the power turning on and off, and I was just getting a black screen on the monitor. It was picking up the signal from the OSSC – just a black screen. I decided to pull out my Composite cables to make sure it wasn’t a problem with my SFC, and I was noticing the flicker from the power turning on and off… So I then thought that maybe my game just wasn’t seated properly, despite having just cleaned the connections. Sure enough, my console was just struggling getting a clean connection with the game pins, and after jiggling the cart and turning the console on and off a few times, the picture came back. Plugged it right into the OSSC after that with the Insurrection SCART cables, and bingo – it was working just fine.
This might be a long-shot, but is there any way you can verify that the game is seated properly? Most HDTVs still have composite inputs – that’s what I ended up using, and they are the most common connection that come with consoles. If not, try taking a game that doesn’t have any valuable save data on it, wiggling it around the connectors, and turning the power on and off a number of times. Wait a few seconds every time you turn the console off and on. There’s a chance that the SNES just isn’t getting a clean connection with the game. I mean, it’s worth a shot, unless you know for sure that isn’t the issue. Good luck!
April 14, 2020 at 7:10 PM #36958arp
ParticipantOK. I managed to find an SNES composite cable in my garage. It’s definitely the console, as I’m seeing the same problem with a direct composite connection to the TV. I tried better seating the cartridge, but no luck so far. At least I know the console is the problem–now to fix it! Thanks, all.
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