OSSC Questions before I buy

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  • #25695
    Veren
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    So I noticed that OSSCs got back in stock. Which I am really excited about. Correct me if I’m wrong. I am here to ask a couple of questions if that’s ok since I am new to devices like these.

    For starters. I have a RGB Modded N64 and a good Csync/Luma RGB SCART cable and a copy of Majora’s Mask. Now. My major question for this device, will the device clear up any population and clear all the choppyness via edges and make it more clear like the FrameMeister does and get smooth gameplay out of it? I would love to enjoy my childhood games again along with ROM hacks on my Everdrive.

    Should the OSSC have no issues with pixilation issues especially on a 50″ Samsung 4kTV? Can it play games in 1080p and near 4k as well? I’ve read some where someone was playing this device with 4k. I’m not sure. Can someone please give me some info on this? It would help. Thanks!

    And will this go for the GameCube and Wii as well? And PS2 games? For example. I buy a PS2. Will it let me play Kingdom Hearts II in 1080p if I own a component cable? I also have a copy of Luigis Mansion for the GameCube and Twilight Princess And Super Mario Sunshine. And the Wind Waker. And will the OSSC enable progressive scan as well for GC Plug and Play?

    Also will it display pretty RGB colours for Zelda Ocarina of Time? Silly question. Like make the game brighter? Sorry for the weird questions. I really would love to buy the product. I’ve heard good things about it. I want to play my childhood games again. And can the OSSC handle 60fps in some old games like Final Fantasy X, etc? Or Shadow of the Colossus? And should I buy the remote with the product and the PSU isn’t that the plug right or can I use my own I don’t use?

    And can the OSSC display 2160 4k display for games on the Wii? Sorry if I got the 4k display wrong I’m still new to this I got my first 4k TV for Christmas so I want to play my old games in HD. And if I own the GBA plug that lets you play GBA games on the GameCube. “I forgot the name” can it upscale games like Pokemon Games and Minishcap to 1080p? Thank you. 🙂 And what is the remote overlay for? Do i need it? Or is it not nessesary? Thanks!!! 😀 And I’ve tried to find videos playing the OSSC with Majora’s Mask on YouTube and Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess to see if I’ll decide if I want it or not since CRTs are becoming hard to find in my area but I’m not getting any videos found. If I can request someone to makes video for me displaying gameplay of the OSSC can you show me before I decide to buy it? Like how Twilight Priness, SM64, OoT or MM would look? That’d be great. ^_^ Have a good day/evening/nignt! Sorry for the long post. Just wanted info before I buy. And does it have input lag? Thanks. 🙂

    #25698
    nmalinoski
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    For starters. I have a RGB Modded N64 and a good Csync/Luma RGB SCART cable and a copy of Majora’s Mask. Now. My major question for this device, will the device clear up any population and clear all the choppyness via edges and make it more clear like the FrameMeister does and get smooth gameplay out of it? I would love to enjoy my childhood games again along with ROM hacks on my Everdrive.

    The OSSC is fundamentally different from the Framemeister. The Framemeister is a scaler, which buffers a full frame, then performs transformations before outputting it, and it can perform framerate conversion to give you a steady 50Hz/60Hz.

    The OSSC is a line multiplier, which can only buffer individual lines. For example, it can double 240p to 480p, or 480p to 960p, but it cannot adjust the framerate or perform full-frame transformations.

    As for smoothing, it does not currently do any, but very basic smoothing might be possible in a future firmware update.

    Should the OSSC have no issues with pixilation issues especially on a 50″ Samsung 4kTV? Can it play games in 1080p and near 4k as well? I’ve read some where someone was playing this device with 4k. I’m not sure. Can someone please give me some info on this? It would help. Thanks!

    As I said above, the OSSC does not do any smoothing, so you will get nice, chunky pixels. If you’d like jaggies and pixels smoothed out a little, you may want to consider an mCable or a different scaler.

    The only times the OSSC will output 1080 is if you are applying a line5x multiplier to 240p, which results in the top and bottom of the image getting cropped (240p x5 is 1200p), or when it’s bob-deinterlacing 1080i, or when it’s passing-through 1080p. It has no framebuffer, so it cannot effectively scale any source resolution to any arbitrary output resolution.

    The current iteration of the OSSC maxes out at 1920×1200. Most of the talk regarding the OSSC and 4K displays is that 4K displays tend to be more tolerant of off-spec refresh rates and resolutions that the OSSC generates.

    And will this go for the GameCube and Wii as well? And PS2 games? For example. I buy a PS2. Will it let me play Kingdom Hearts II in 1080p if I own a component cable? I also have a copy of Luigis Mansion for the GameCube and Twilight Princess And Super Mario Sunshine. And the Wind Waker. And will the OSSC enable progressive scan as well for GC Plug and Play?

    I think you’ll only be able to play KH2 in 1080p if you use something like GSM to force video output to 1080i and have the OSSC bob-deinterlace it to 1080p, which is ugly; or use GSM to force output to 240p and then set 240p to line5x. If you let it boot at its default resolution, which I think is 480i, then the OSSC will bob-deinterlace it to 480p, which, again, will look ugly. With a console like the PS2, where most of the content is 480i, you’ll want either a CRT or an additional video processor to do deinterlacing (or let your TV do it).

    Regarding the GameCube, if you’ve got one of those GCVideo modules, you’ll be getting HDMI already; there’s no real need to use an OSSC with a GCVideo product.

    Also will it display pretty RGB colours for Zelda Ocarina of Time? Silly question. Like make the game brighter? Sorry for the weird questions. I really would love to buy the product. I’ve heard good things about it. I want to play my childhood games again. And can the OSSC handle 60fps in some old games like Final Fantasy X, etc? Or Shadow of the Colossus? And should I buy the remote with the product and the PSU isn’t that the plug right or can I use my own I don’t use?

    I’m not sure it will make anything brighter, but there are settings to adjust brightness of individual color channels. Personally, I haven’t needed it.

    Yes, the OSSC can handle 60Hz. I would recommend getting both the remote and PSU, and you will probably want to tag the barrel plug as being for the OSSC, as many people have mistakenly connected the wrong power plug to the OSSC and blow a fuse and/or other components. You could very well use an existing PSU that you already have, but you will need to make sure it has the correct output voltage and enough output amperage.

    And can the OSSC display 2160 4k display for games on the Wii? Sorry if I got the 4k display wrong I’m still new to this I got my first 4k TV for Christmas so I want to play my old games in HD. And if I own the GBA plug that lets you play GBA games on the GameCube. “I forgot the name” can it upscale games like Pokemon Games and Minishcap to 1080p?

    Again, no, the OSSC is not capable of 4K output; it’s just that 4K displays tend to be more tolerant. Also, even if you had a scaler capable of 4K, it won’t change the internal rendering resolution any–you’re still upscaling a 480i/480p image.

    And what is the remote overlay for? Do i need it? Or is it not nessesary?

    The remote used is a generic, programmable TV remote control. The overlay is a sticker that you apply to the remote so you get OSSC-specific labeling for the buttons. It’s nice to have but not necessary.

    #25699
    Veren
    Participant

    Ok thank you. I think I’ll be getting the xRGB mini then. Thanks! 🙂

    #25714
    Veren
    Participant

    One other question. Then ill leave ya alone. Will I still be able to play LoZ Ocarina of Time in 1080p and Majora’s Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword? I jyst wanted to make sure if it’ll clear up the nasty pixilated/crappy washed out colors on my TV in 1080p. I just wanted something decent so I can play my games again. Thanks. I can make Wii games look good in Game Mode by changing the contrast settings and all that. One other thing can it handle Samsung’s HDR mode? And my games tend to speed up if I’m not in Game Mode. Will OSSC fix that? Sorry.

    #25716
    nmalinoski
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    It really depends on what you mean by “play in 1080p”. No external video processor will be able to change the internal rendering resolution to 1080p, so they only way you’ll be able to play those games in 1080p in that sense would be through emulation.

    If you mean play these games on a 1080p display, absolutely; you just need to feed your display a resolution it understands and let it scale up to its panel’s native resolution. With the OSSC, this would normally mean at least line-doubling 240p to 480p (most sets don’t accept 240p over HDMI), either passing-through 480i or bob-deinterlacing it to 480p, or passing-through 480p and letting the display handle the rest. If you want to line-multiply these to the maximum supported by the OSSC, you will need a display that can handle 960p over HDMI for 480i/480p content (line4x 240p, line4x 480i, line2x 480p) and/or deal with the top and bottom cropped on 240p material (line5x 240p, 1080p mode).

    None of the devices that the OSSC would be used with support HDR. If what you’re talking about is that fake HDR that can be generated from SDR content, then I don’t see why not.

    What do you mean when you say your games “speed up” when you’re not in game mode? Game mode is on the TV; it has no control over the framerate or processing on the console.

    #25717
    Veren
    Participant

    Sorry it must be my Samsung TV that speeds games up because it’s Ultra HD with 120hz. So the 120hz must be interfering with the gameplay. Skrro for not being specific. Ok after reading all this I decided I’m not getting the OSSC. I’ll do what you guys said and stick with emulators for now. Thank you for the help. Please feel free to lock the thread. Thanks. 🙂

    #25718
    nmalinoski
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    That…doesn’t speed up your games. In those “120Hz” modes, the TV’s video processor is buffering frames and either showing them twice or generating a sort of in-between frame that didn’t come from the console. Generally that results in a blurry mess. I would recommend disabling it.

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