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  • in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20828
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      Dreamcast is 720×480, only retro PCs used 640×480.

      I’ve seen some people claiming it’s a common myth. Even Beharbros support said that Elgato wouldn’t work with Toro/Akura directly because of the resolution…

      in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20817
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        for a capture card

        What capture card would you recommend for playing from laptop monitor? At first, I was thinking about Elgato HD60S because their ‘Instant Gameview’ feature gives you almost zero input lag in the preview window. But apparently, this capture card doesn’t support 640×480 resolution, only 720×480… I guess using generic VGA to HDMI scalers would give me a stretched 1080p image in the preview window which is not cool. And I’m not sure if OSSC can convert 640×480 to 720×480 or something…

        in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20659
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          Adam also said that his Dreamcast looked the worst he’d ever seen when he ran it through and OSSC, 99% of people get awesome results with Dreamcast and OSSC so I wouldn’t necessary trust every analysis he comes up with.

          Maybe you could help me with the Elgato question… noone else is paying attention 🙁 Will OSSC work with Elgato HD60S? I’ve heard it does work with HD60 but a guy from another thread have some issues with the S model. The only thing I know is that Elgato requires an unencrypted HDMI signal whatever that means 😀

          in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20645
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            it should be a safe assumption he’s using a straight SCART cable

            Actually I just asked him in comments and he said he was using Toro->SCART

            in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20640
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              the Toro is capable of acting like a straight SCART cable by configuring the video mode switch for RGB (15kHz) and the output sync switch for RGBS, and I assume thefoo.83’s cables should also be capable of the same output by configuring its switch for RGB (15kHz).

              Pack-a-punch cables are capable of this output too, right?

              in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20638
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                When you see RGB SCART in Adam Koralik’s video, it’s SD 480i running through the Framemeister

                oh… I think I missed the part where he said he’s using SCART directly out of the Dreamcast. I thought he’s using something like Toro->SCART or maybe one of those advanced SCARTs by thefoo.83

                But the one from RetroGamingCables should be just fine, right? I noticed Beharbros recommend using their ‘Sony Premium SCART’ and they claim it to be ‘the best cable for your setup’ for some reason 🙂

                in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20634
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                  Again, all other things equal, RGBS over SCART and RGBHV over VGA from the Dreamcast will be indistinguishable.

                  What can you say about this guy’s comparison video where RGB SCART definitely looks worse than VGA? https://youtu.be/zosZPMWQ_ZQ?t=23m

                  in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20633
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                    Again, all other things equal, RGBS over SCART and RGBHV over VGA from the Dreamcast will be indistinguishable.

                    Ok so for the ‘Toro->SCART’ setup what is the best quality SCART cable available as of now?
                    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/euroscart-male-to-euroscart-male-rgb-scart-cable-pro
                    this one?

                    And one more off topic question – will the ‘Toro->SCART->OSSC’ setup work with Elgato HD60S (specifically if I use line-doubling)? That was asked by one guy in a nearby thread but still no reply…

                    in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20630
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                      No, the standard Dreamcast SCART cable only supports 480i. I’ve never heard of someone coming up with a code breaker code to get around that limitation.

                      I didn’t know that the official one doesn’t support 480p… Are there any 3rd party ones that do?
                      But for the Toro->SCART and Toro->VGA setups the picture quality would be the same for 480p games?

                      in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20623
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                        Alright, thanks… I really would like to hear a second opinion, especially regarding Code Breaker with SCART.

                        in reply to: Dreamcast Toro+SCART question #20621
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                          The benefits of the Toro depend on what you want to do with your Dreamcast and what you already have.

                          Pretty simple – I want to get the best image quality possible, no matter how much money it would cost. However if some things like Toro don’t improve anything, it’s obvious I could just skip them in my setup.

                          Assuming Codebreaker can force 480p with the SCART cable

                          I’m totally unsure it can do this 🙂 I wanted to ask someone who tried that first before buying…

                          The short answer is yes and no

                          Why? 🙂 It’s a simple question, yes or no – does the highest quality SCART give you the same image quality as the highest quality VGA box in the games that support the latter?

                          except the horizontal and vertical sync signals are separate instead of muxed as they are with SCART

                          is it better or worse?

                          Where you might actually see a quality difference between SCART and VGA will be with cable build quality and shielding.

                          But what if we’re assuming both of them are highest possible quality?

                          in reply to: OSSC Compatibility with Elgato HD60S #20609
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                            So did you solve this issue? I’m planning to buy OSSC exactly for the same setup…

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