November 4, 2016 at 10:45 AM #9391
Welp… should have seen that coming.
So my monitor – an iiyama ProLite XB2783HSU – sucks at processing 480p/576p, as there’s no way to get the aspect ratio right for 4:3 stuff (I have the choice between an “Aspect Mode”, that upscales these resolutions as if they had square pixels, or a “Full Mode”, that stretches them to fill the screen).
The – according to my monitor – 1440×480/1440×576 resolutions the OSSC outputs if TX mode is set to “DVI” and 480i/576i passtrough to “On” are generally upscaled to fill the screen, so no salvation there.
Btw, other users seem to have similarly uncooperative monitors: Click me!
I have experimented with my graphics cards’s custom resolution tool and lo and behold:
The monitor can display both 1920×480@60Hz and 1920×576@50Hz (1920×480@50Hz unfortunately doesn’t seem to work) and upscales them to fill the screen.
Would it be possible to make the OSSC output these modes? Together with an option to toggle between 16:9 (image fills the screen) and 4:3 (image is mapped to 1440×480/576, as seen in DVI+480i/576i passthrough mode) these would solve this particular problem and AND provide the means to achieve a maximum horizontal definition for all users with compatible displays.November 4, 2016 at 11:25 AM #9394paulb_nlParticipant
With the timing tweaker you can change the sampling rate to output 1920 horizontal but mapping to 4:3 in 480p mode is not implemented. I had it output 1920x720p in lineX3 4:3 that worked.
Maybe when lineX4 is added there will also be a 4:3 option like with lineX3.November 4, 2016 at 11:53 AM #9395
How did you do that exactly? I tried to, but all I got was a black screen…November 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM #9397paulb_nlParticipant
When you increase the sampling rate you also have to increase the h.synclen and h.backporch. For 1920×720 with lineX3 4:3 I ended up with h.samplingrate 1830, h.synclen 43, h.active 1440, h.backporch 255. I couldn’t get the image perfectly centered because the h.backporch maxes out on 255. It needs to be higher.November 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM #9403
Thanks a bunch! Minipulating the linetriple mode’s timing worked out here as well (didn’t try that before).
However, trying to enable 1920×576 (coming from the standard 576i settings) ended in a black screen; I guess the sampling rate’s maximum (2300) isn’t sufficient for that to work out. Well… I guess even if it had worked out, I would have ended up with a 16:9 image.November 7, 2016 at 11:31 PM #9463marqsParticipant
One possible solution could be setting H.active to 640 so that monitor should only process 640×480 area (instead of 720×480) of the output.
LineX3 4:3 has a fixed-size pillarboxes which explains why image can’t be fully centered if width is increased a lot. There’s no similar setting to 480i/480p as number of FPGA PLLs is limited and most displays (well, at least TVs) can size the signal correctly to 4:3.November 8, 2016 at 12:41 AM #9467
“One possible solution could be setting H.active to 640 so that monitor should only process 640×480 area (instead of 720×480) of the output.”
That indeed helps with the aspect ratio, but in return is detrimental to image definition :-/
“as number of FPGA PLLs is limited”
What exactly does that mean? Is the OSSCs number of output modes limited?
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