August 12, 2018 at 4:56 PM #22749AkidadusParticipant
First post here,
I have a TCLS405 and it does work perfectly with all sources like everyone says. I was thinking of upgrading to a LG OLED B8 or C8.
Has anyone confirmed that the new 2018 models work? I see the B7 and C7 model works well, but wanted to confirm before I spent more money on a new OLED.August 15, 2018 at 12:01 AM #22787JagasianParticipant
Samsung H7150 (2014 LCD TV) works great for both SNES and PS2. I tested the SNES in Line 2x, 3x, 4x, and 5x. All appear to work with no issues.August 29, 2018 at 2:09 AM #22975Das ManParticipant
I just started testing the OLED C8 which is the same as the E8 except for the bezel and speakers. These are my first impressions.
All 240p systems I tried (NESRGB, SNES, N64, PCE, PSX, Saturn) work with x3, x4, x5, but the HDMI signal was intermittently dropped in x5 on the SNES and even on x3 on the NESRGB–I suspect the HDMI cable is not good enough, so will retest with a better one in a couple of days.
240p/480i transitions in a game like Chrono Cross result in a one-second HDMI signal interruption, which cuts off the sound if outputting sound through the HDMI out. A workaround is to use the analog stereo output for sound.
The 480i systems I tried (PS2 and Wii hooked through RGB SCART) look best by far with x4 bob IMO. Didn’t try component since I prefer the look of 480i instead of 480p.
I used 100% scanlines since I’m used to my D20 BVM. After various adjustments on the picture mode of the OLED, the results in both 240p and 480i with the above outputs look remarkably close to the BVM (except in a huge size and with perfect geometry). I first tried using Game mode, but found that HDR Effect mode looks better and vibrant, more “CRT-like” to me, with the same lag as Game mode far as I can tell. Unfortunately only Game mode is available for 480i, but adjusting picture settings can make it look close enough to HDR Effect.
Of course all processing/effects in whatever mode used should be turned off (especially TruMotion).
EDIT: Upon further use with this TV I would say that TruMotion settings may be useful (the User setting). OLED is after all sample-and-hold, and coming from a CRT fast motion in games can get unbearably blurry. Using the de-blur (frame interpolation) setting is very effective but can introduce artifacts, which may be less noticeable without scanlines. But the most interesting option is the black frame insertion (called MotionPro in the LG panels). If you can bear a less bright picture and do not notice the flicker (I don’t), then it may be the best option for games with fast motion/scrolling.September 2, 2018 at 10:49 AM #23032NotoriousParticipant
I have a Sony Bravia KD55X8509C, has this been tested with the OSSC?
ThanksSeptember 2, 2018 at 7:57 PM #23035HarrumphParticipant
TVs in the Sony 4k X series have fared pretty well in general, although SNES/NES might require de-jittermod to work (unless you only play in 50Hz mode).September 2, 2018 at 8:23 PM #23037NotoriousParticipant
Thank you for your reply, I would be mainly using it for N64, it has RGB mod but debating if to get the OSSC or get the UltraHDMI done.October 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM #23295
Mode Tested: PAL
Tested With: PlayStation SCPH-5552
TV Model Tested: 50″ and 43″ Philips PUS6262
Linex5: Y (Mode changed to 1600×1200)
Notes: All the line modes I tested with my TV worked fine. Some of them had bit of scaling issues out of the box but TV is able to change aspect ratio and all I had to do is change Picture Format to either Fit to screen or Original. Worth to mention that I wanted to achieve original 4:3 format not “stretched” picture and it indeed worked fine. Im very happy with this product, input lag is no existent. Obviously I turned off all the fancy enhancing modes in the TV as TV is only for gaming.
Linex5:October 12, 2018 at 9:09 PM #23343superlolloParticipant
Sony OLED A1 65” confirmed to work in 3x 4x and 5x on pal snes and ntsc SaturnOctober 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM #23387opossumParticipant
Hi all, I want to replace my 2013 Panasonic plasma (TX-P50GT60) since despite being perfectly compatible with all the consoles (included 1-CHIP Super Famicom and NESRGB) it doesn’t display any image with Omega MVS and doesn’t work at all in x3,x4 and x5 OSSC modes.
As far as I have understood LG OLED models sold in Europe seem to have a good compatibility with OSSC… Now I’m oriented towards 55″ 55C8PLA model (2018 C8 series). In a recent article by eurogamer.net, the C8 is reported to be “fully compatible” with OSSC -> https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-10-15-best-2018-4k-tvs-for-hdr-gaming-7009… But before spending 1600 Euros it would be nice to obtain more information about this model OSSC compatibility.
Forum user Das Man wrote some posts before he actually owns this tv and mentions he experienced some dropping signal issues in 5x mode with SNES and NESRGB in 3x mode, probably due to a bad HDMI cable… Dear Das Man, have you tried with other cables? Can you give us a full OSSC compatibility report on this C8 tv? Do all the systems work flawlessly in 2x mode? Have you tried it with Neo Geo? (It’s supposed to work since the tv accepts multiline modes, but you never can tell…) I guess it’s important to know as much as possible about this model since it’s relatively affordable and according to online reviews works beautifully with films and video content in general.
I want to report also I recently bought a TCL 55DC766 (latest TCL model sold in Europe) thinking TCL panels were the most compatible and cheap and that European models mounted the same panels as US models… Well, I knew things were not supposed to be exactly the same from the beginning, but I didn’t find anything specific on the subject (read, European TCLs OSSC reports) so I decided to give it a try anyway…Unfortunately this model is NOT COMPATIBLE with SFC and NESRGB…I had dropping signal issues even with JAP Mega Drive… Neo Geo worked well, but who cares, i returned it…Beware!
Thanks for attention.
A.October 19, 2018 at 8:31 PM #23388Das ManParticipant
@opossum I did replace all my HDMI cables with premium certified cables for best results. I found that SNES still dropped sync intermittently only in 5x mode, though sometimes it only seemed to happen soon after having started a game, and then it looked like the signal stabilized. But I cannot say if drops would happen after more time because I did not test this mode extensively, since I decided that on this TV, for my taste, 3x looks much better (in non-PC, and any picture mode other than Game mode). These drops could also be due to something else in my setup, so it would be good if another c8 owner could verify.
I did not see drops in either 3x or 4x mode (though 4x I also did not test extensively because I did not like how it looks).
I do not have a Neo Geo so I did not test that system.October 23, 2018 at 1:31 PM #23408opossumParticipant
Ok, thanks to a friend who works in a shop I got the chance of a quick test of OSSC with LG 55C8PLA… Went there with my 1-CHIP Super Famicom (PACKAPUNCH RGB C-SYNC cable), NESRGB and Omega CMVS (PACKAPUNCH SYNC-ON-LUMA cable). I had a lot of dropping signal/no signal issues especially in 5x mode and occasionally also in other modes, especially with NESRGB…So the C8 model compatibility with OSSC is definitely not 100%. I’d say…80%? The C7 series were reported to be 100% compatible apart from a few quirks…Can anybody confirm that once and for all? The C7s come also cheaper right now…There are youtube videos of forum user BahnYuki which show 65C7 5X compatibility with MegaDrive, Dreamcast and N64 but he doesn’t say anything about SNES or NESRGB…Other videos show model B7 (which is supposed to use the same panel as C7) full 5x compatibility with NEO GEO…I have also doubts about “jitter” problem with Nintendo consoles, like lost in translation…It refers to the dropping/intermittent signal issue or something else? Please let me know.
Thanks for attention.
A.October 24, 2018 at 8:25 AM #23415HarrumphParticipant
I actually can’t find now where C7 compatibility was confirmed for SNES, was maybe mentioned in passing in some Shmups forum post. Also, BahnYuki has always tested SNES before on various displays, so I’m pretty sure he would’ve explicitly mentioned if there was some problem with the C7.
You can read about the jitter in the Shmups thread where Marqs presented his solution, leading to the current de-jitter mod board (basically, there is a short scanline every other frame in 60Hz mode). The OSSC itself does not drop signal due to the jitter, but quite a few displays has problems, as you are aware. Even on a display that is compatible, the jitter can be seen as some horizontal instability in the top-most lines (talking very up close, it’s not visible at regular viewing distance (at least for SNES)).November 2, 2018 at 12:59 PM #23551pdaParticipant
New to this game,so please bear with me!
I have a 50” VT60 Panasonic Pal version and couldn’t really get from Google if that would be compatible with OSCC. Yes, one or two users over this forum gave great detailed feedback for best operational utilization but i need actually the basic infos about what to inspect with my TV menus and inputs,just to see if it would be compatible at all. Because someone mentioned to look for PC mode and custom resolutions on Advance picture settings but i can’t get any of that appear when i browse on my own set! Only Game mode Yes or no option.
Just updated firmware and still nada.
Thanks in advance!November 2, 2018 at 1:18 PM #23552
The most important thing in any TV for gaming of any kind is to DISABLE all the image processing features to reduce input lag and other stuff that can mess up picture. You mention that your TV has Game Mode, its very possible that turning it ON TV will automatically choose the best settings but its not always the case. What should you DISABLE? I dont know your set up but it’s usually things like: dynamic contrast, dynamig brightnes, colour enhancement, motion improving features called differently by each manufacturer for example in my tv its called Motion Plus and i can set it to off, low, medium and high, you want that off etc. Its not a rocket science, usually instruction manual explain features so you know if you want to keep it or turn it off.November 2, 2018 at 1:25 PM #23553
I wouldnt reccomend a PC Mode for console. On my TV it disables all the settings and accepts pure hdmi signal without processing but then I even loose ability to adjust colors etc as on PC you can change all that within operating system settings. I calibrated my TV the best I could using picture perfect software and just disabled all the other crap. My 4k has 40ms input lag and seems correct when i compare it to mine 1080p display with 32ms side by side.
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