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  • #36648
    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    I make no such claims as to what’s best I’m just reporting from my own LG C9 experience.

    For me N64 doesn’t look better on the FM it looks the same (or the same with some extra added noise). Why would you use pass through with the N64? Several N64 games (Pokemon Stadium) REALLY struggle on the FM too because it takes so long to go from 240p to 480i.

    I can confirm NES RGB works on LG C9 without the need of a dejitter.

    For PS1 I’m not really understanding what you mean, the FM doesn’t support optimal timings anyway, so just use OSSC in your favourite generic mode and it will perform as well as the FM will it not?

    Again a lot of PS1 games (Micro Machines) are unplayable on the FM because it takes so long to go from 480i to 240p, Micro Machines for example is at least tolerable on the OSSC since it only shifts resolutions in the pre-game menus.

    I would say PS2 is the console that most benefits from the the Framemeister, it really shines for PS2 and easily beats OSSC here with its excellent game-optimised deinterlacing.

    #36650
    Harrumph
    Participant

    When it comes to PS1, it’s a bit different, the problem comes with the fact that PS1 deliver 4 different resolutions, sometimes within a single game, which makes it difficult to set the OSSC correctly so that it doesn’t lose signal and looks good all the time.

    There is a very simple solution to this: use generic mode. In general, the community could gain from less fixation with the optimized modes IMHO, they can often cause more problems than what is gained in image quality, and there is (nearly) always some compromise made regarding aspect ratio.

    Regarding the C9, I’ve seen some conflicting reports now. I guess it stems from some having de-jitter board, some not, and also some only using PAL consoles (which does not have the sync anomaly). But I still do wonder if there was perhaps some FW update to the LGs that made them less tolerant…

    EDIT after Buckos post:
    That your NESRGB works unjittered and not SNES is quite strange. The sync anomaly should be virtually identical…

    #36652
    arovane
    Participant

    There is a very simple solution to this: use generic mode.

    Yes, that works, but some games just jump all over the place and signal gets lost. What I mean is that Saturn looks perfect and steady, but you’re bound to get problems at some point with PS1.

    I can confirm NES RGB works on LG C9 without the need of a dejitter.

    To be perfectly honest I only tried the NES RGB on Panasonic plasma screens, and it never worked. didn’t bother try it on the C9. The SNES however, doesn’t work at all on the C9, or on any screen that I tried. Regarding the N64, please let me know which settings you’re using, cause even in generic it looks really flickered and ugly.

    But I still do wonder if there was perhaps some FW update to the LGs that made them less tolerant…

    Yes, I suspect the same.

    #36654
    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    Yes, that works, but some games just jump all over the place and signal gets lost. What I mean is that Saturn looks perfect and steady, but you’re bound to get problems at some point with PS1.

    What games specifically? I’ve never encountered that. I think what you are seeing are games that switch from 240p to 480i. Using optimised modes won’t help here. Indeed, there are games on the Saturn that do that too unfortunately.

    For N64 I just used generic, I remember when OSSC first landed and there was only generic and I was really blown away with how good the N64 looked, and that’s just using a simple amp mod. My console is NTSC though, I can’t comment how PAL games look.

    N64 OSSC Generic

    #36666
    arovane
    Participant

    What games specifically? I’ve never encountered that. I think what you are seeing are games that switch from 240p to 480i.

    Yes that’s what I meant. From the PS1 logo at boot up to the game menu to the actual game, I feel like the console switch back and forth between 240p and 480i several times. I don’t recall ever encountering that on Saturn.

    Regarding Snes, is there a way to force it to work on most screens even without the dejitter board?

    #36667
    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    Yes that’s what I meant. From the PS1 logo at boot up to the game menu to the actual game, I feel like the console switch back and forth between 240p and 480i several times. I don’t recall ever encountering that on Saturn.

    It switches once, and this is significantly worse on the Framemeister as the delay is much longer, it has nothing to do with optimal settings etc.

    Regarding Snes, is there a way to force it to work on most screens even without the dejitter board?

    Play PAL games on PAL console.

    #36989
    Destroyer-3
    Participant

    My TV is VIZIO E420-B1

    I have tested it with the Nintendo Wii and Sega Saturn

    Both work really well. 5x scale seems to cut out some of the picture and it’s not as full as I’ve seen on other TV’s, but the other scalers work well and the picture is really crisp. I have not tested this with other consoles like genesis or SNES, but I do want to expand my collection and I’ll update if I find any incompatibilities.

    #37136
    RTStu
    Participant

    Requesting tests for two budget models if anyone has them:

    LG 43UM6910PUA
    TCL 43S425

    Both are dirty-cheap on Best Buy right now.

    #37262
    Yelkk
    Participant

    Hello guys,
    I didn’t saw your reply on this post !! I am amazed that we all have the C9 😀
    For your info, I still took an OSSC and for the Super Nintendo, it’s literally amazing. For the moment I use a PAL SNES and PAL games and it’s crazy how beautiful is it. I will get soon my Snes PAL switchless with de-jitter and will do deeper test.
    Concerning the N64, I have a PAL one with RGB Advance mod and I don’t understand how to get good picture quality on it. I am stuck with passthrough like you said and it’s literally disgusting. I don’t know if it’s because on Pal we have 288p instead of 240p or my cables; or the profile. I am literally stuck :/
    I tried to create a new topic about that, I detailed a lot with my complete spec and a lot of pictures. I am waiting his validation.
    But if you want more detailed result on Gamecube and Wii, I can share it with you guys. I have an EON MK-II and it’s crazy how beautiful it can be.
    Concerning the Nes RGB, are you sure we don’t need any de-jitter ? I am about to have one soon and it might be a good news for me. 😀
    I hope you guys will help me for the n64, it’s my biggest collection here so it’s really sad.

    • This reply was modified 6 months ago by Yelkk.
    #37332
    Harrumph
    Participant

    @RTStu
    The LG should be very similar to 43UK6500AUA, link on first page.
    The TCL should be very similar to the S405, which has several reviews for different sizes on the first page.

    Requesting tests for two budget models if anyone has them:

    LG 43UM6910PUA
    TCL 43S425

    #37403
    johnboy130
    Participant

    Hello All

    I am looking at getting OSSC, I have a 4k Sony XF9005, has anyone used this TV with OSSC and what is the compatibility like on it?
    Has anyone tired 5x on it.

    Will be running a Saturn, Mega Drive and Dreamcast through it

    Thanks in advance

    John

    #37422
    Yawnny
    Participant

    Chiming in here with 3 displays I tested this evening.

    1.
    Dell Alienware AW2518H (this is the G Sync version)

    Only 2x mode works fully here
    3x, 4x, and 5x all produce sound but no picture

    the AW2518H has no “Display” settings that allow you to change aspect ratio, so you’re stuck with a stretched image in 2x. Extremely disappointed at this displays compatibility.
    Oddly enough.. the AW2518HF (which is the Free Sync version) has reports of full compatibility, and this model has “Display” settings in the OSD which contains Aspect Ratio settings
    My theory is that, with the AW2518H (G Sync ver.), the panel has to adhere to stricter requirements to be allowed the G-sync badge of honor, and disables settings, and apparently tolerance to video signals.

    2.
    Dell U2715H
    All modes except 5x supported (5x displays an image.. but it’s really corrupt with pink and green lines)

    3.
    Dell UP2516D

    Eureka! This baby loves the OSSC (thank goodness!)
    All modes supported, all timing adjustments displayed a picture
    Perfect compatibility from my testing

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 4 weeks ago by Yawnny.
    • This reply was modified 5 months, 4 weeks ago by Yawnny.
    #37428
    RTStu
    Participant

    @RTStu
    The LG should be very similar to 43UK6500AUA, link on first page.
    The TCL should be very similar to the S405, which has several reviews for different sizes on the first page.

    Requesting tests for two budget models if anyone has them:

    LG 43UM6910PUA

    Thanks! Not sure which one I’m going to go with – they’re both dirt cheap right now. Any suggestions?

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 4 weeks ago by RTStu. Reason: Including quote
    #37441
    DJAI
    Participant

    I did some testing with my Nintendo Wii(PAL) using a component cable.
    I also tried some games in GC-Mode.
    Tested with an OSSC 1.6 on FW 0.85.
    Here are the results:

    Viewsonic XG2703-GS:
    _____________________
    *27″ 1440P 165Hz Gaming Monitor
    *Has Nvidia G-Sync

    480P
    Passthru: Yes
    Line2X : No

    480i/576i
    Passthru: Yes
    Line2X: Yes
    Line3X: No
    Line4X: No

    LG UF 6800:
    ___________________
    *4K TV

    480P
    Passthru: Yes
    Line2X : Yes

    480i/576i
    Passthru: Yes
    Line2X: Yes
    Line3X: No
    Line4X: Yes

    Unfortunately the picture did get more blurry on my LG TV when I multiplied lines.
    The colors got much better but the picture was sharper on passthru.
    I tried to turn off the enhancement-settings on my TV.
    The monitor on the other hand didnt even work with 480px2 wich is really disappointing.
    I heard that G-Sync monitors have problems with OSSC, so maybe thats the cause.
    Now I’m searching for a second monitor just for OSSC and my Wii but I dont know what I should buy…

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by DJAI.
    #37457
    BuckoA51
    Keymaster

    If you’re getting a softer picture on 480p x 2 something is very wrong there!

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